Class : Warlock
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Class : Warlock
I'm level 56(+) with my Warlock now, and thought I might share my knowledge about talents etc. with you since I'm a very experienced spellcaster in games.
Affliction tree: Really good, you can kill enemies fast, and can use tactics to solo any enemy that doesn't resist much by applying afflictions, use fear etc. until it dies. Suppression is not needed higher than 3, since that is where it pretty much reaches it maximum (Cred to AllanP for that information). Highly recommended to max out the Improved Corruption since it's working really nice and it's almost vital to have it instant :]. Improved Drain Soul seems bugged to me, I don't aquire any mana when the enemy dies, don't waste talent points there. Amplify Curse I can really recommend as well, works excellent and does insane damage :] Siphon Life, an EXCELLENT spell, I use it VERY frequently, the bonus damage increases the healing A LOT : ) Improved Howl of Terror is vital for your survival, if several mobs go after you, just cast it instantly and disappear :] Unstable Affliction is my last recommendation, which is logical since it's last... Works like a charm :] Works quite well in PvP but Destruction is to recommend, this is better PvE combined with Voidy :]
Demonology: Nothing much to say, this tree is very good when going for defensive playing, not PvP. Soul Link is bugged, don't take it, as well as Improved Health Funnel, it can instantly kill you if you take that one. Other than that I believe this tree works great PvE, quite fast killing with a balanced Felguard (Medium HP/Attack/Defense) and some great emergency solutions in bad situation, e.g. if your pet is about to die you can use Fel Domination and quickly aquire a new minion to finish off the enemy :] Great PvE.
/EDIT/
Quick tip of strategy for using this talent build: NEVER use Imp, use Felguard as much as possible, have his Cleave active and nothing else, don't forget to Health Funnel him since he's not as good as Void in defense, even though it's very near. Felguard is pretty much the only thing you need :] In lesser battles, in grinding e.g., at the same time you send the Felguard, put Curse of Agony and Corruption upon your enemy, then let the Felguard fight a bit to build up aggro. Use Immolate if you wish, but I'd recommend that you start casting Shadow Bolts towards the enemy when it's at ~40-50%. 2 Shadow Bolts usually do it maximum :] Not much you have to do when Felguard is active.
*In harder battles, bosses etc. when soloing: Use Void. He can deal some damage while tanking, but of course he is mostly tanking, so put as many afflictions you can on the boss while Void tanks. My order is most commonly: Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Shadow Bolt or some shots with wand, Corruption, Curse of Agony, Immolate and repeat. Though if the enemy only resists all the time, well... Either you're doomed and won't make it, or you can use Curse of Weakness or Curse of Elements/Darkness (Depending of what element your wand is) and start shooting like a maniac, though you could try to get past the resisting by casting A LOT of spells all the time. Though never forget to check Void's HP, he may be hard to beat, but he still needs healing. For the strategy of doing A LOT of spells during the curse, I'd say this should be the order: Corruption (Until it's applied), Immolate (5 times or until applied), Curse of Agony (Until applied) and then wand. Of course, put healing in between anywhere if Void is running low on HP.
/EDIT/
Destruction: AMAZING damage, but the mana usage is WAY too much for PvE, though this is extremely good for PvP :] Shadow Burn is one of the best ones in my opinion, since it's really nice damage, and it gives back a soul shard if used in the end of the battle. I never got Soul Leech to work, I think it's bugged, but I'm not 100% sure. Backlash works excellent, you really need the 100% reduction of casting time if you're in a so bad situation that you get hit by a high-levelled mob. Destructive Reach is to recommend because of the lower threat, it's quite hard to keep the mob attacking the minion when using Destruction spells so it's really necessary for you to not get attacked. Conflagrate is bugged since it doesn't remove the Immolate DoT, so you can use 2 Conflagrate during one Immolate, great, but bug abuse. :] Must have for PvP :p
Curse of Agony is one of my favourites, especially combined with Amplify Curse, great DoT which doesn't generate too much threat.
Death Coil is to recommend having somewhere easily accessible since it works excellent, gets the enemy away from you, damages the enemy AND heals you for the damage you did :]
Drain Life/Mana, well, I recommend that you Drain Life and use Life Tap to aquire mana since you get more mana through doing that. With a lot of bonus damage you can get full health in MAX 3 successful Drain Life so you really should do that :] To recommend combining Drain Life with Siphon Life for fastest life draining :]
AoEs.... Well, these suck HARD for Warlock, Rain of Fire generates too much threat and Hellfire damages you as well as the enemy damages you. Not recommended unless you have a REALLY good priest with you, or you have an insane ammount of stamina :]
Hope this was of help or intrest
Feel free to ask questions about the class, to recieve and give information, or to just discuss it :]
Now I will not add ANYTHING until my hand is better, it doesn't feel very well of typing this much :p
Affliction tree: Really good, you can kill enemies fast, and can use tactics to solo any enemy that doesn't resist much by applying afflictions, use fear etc. until it dies. Suppression is not needed higher than 3, since that is where it pretty much reaches it maximum (Cred to AllanP for that information). Highly recommended to max out the Improved Corruption since it's working really nice and it's almost vital to have it instant :]. Improved Drain Soul seems bugged to me, I don't aquire any mana when the enemy dies, don't waste talent points there. Amplify Curse I can really recommend as well, works excellent and does insane damage :] Siphon Life, an EXCELLENT spell, I use it VERY frequently, the bonus damage increases the healing A LOT : ) Improved Howl of Terror is vital for your survival, if several mobs go after you, just cast it instantly and disappear :] Unstable Affliction is my last recommendation, which is logical since it's last... Works like a charm :] Works quite well in PvP but Destruction is to recommend, this is better PvE combined with Voidy :]
Demonology: Nothing much to say, this tree is very good when going for defensive playing, not PvP. Soul Link is bugged, don't take it, as well as Improved Health Funnel, it can instantly kill you if you take that one. Other than that I believe this tree works great PvE, quite fast killing with a balanced Felguard (Medium HP/Attack/Defense) and some great emergency solutions in bad situation, e.g. if your pet is about to die you can use Fel Domination and quickly aquire a new minion to finish off the enemy :] Great PvE.
/EDIT/
Quick tip of strategy for using this talent build: NEVER use Imp, use Felguard as much as possible, have his Cleave active and nothing else, don't forget to Health Funnel him since he's not as good as Void in defense, even though it's very near. Felguard is pretty much the only thing you need :] In lesser battles, in grinding e.g., at the same time you send the Felguard, put Curse of Agony and Corruption upon your enemy, then let the Felguard fight a bit to build up aggro. Use Immolate if you wish, but I'd recommend that you start casting Shadow Bolts towards the enemy when it's at ~40-50%. 2 Shadow Bolts usually do it maximum :] Not much you have to do when Felguard is active.
*In harder battles, bosses etc. when soloing: Use Void. He can deal some damage while tanking, but of course he is mostly tanking, so put as many afflictions you can on the boss while Void tanks. My order is most commonly: Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Shadow Bolt or some shots with wand, Corruption, Curse of Agony, Immolate and repeat. Though if the enemy only resists all the time, well... Either you're doomed and won't make it, or you can use Curse of Weakness or Curse of Elements/Darkness (Depending of what element your wand is) and start shooting like a maniac, though you could try to get past the resisting by casting A LOT of spells all the time. Though never forget to check Void's HP, he may be hard to beat, but he still needs healing. For the strategy of doing A LOT of spells during the curse, I'd say this should be the order: Corruption (Until it's applied), Immolate (5 times or until applied), Curse of Agony (Until applied) and then wand. Of course, put healing in between anywhere if Void is running low on HP.
/EDIT/
Destruction: AMAZING damage, but the mana usage is WAY too much for PvE, though this is extremely good for PvP :] Shadow Burn is one of the best ones in my opinion, since it's really nice damage, and it gives back a soul shard if used in the end of the battle. I never got Soul Leech to work, I think it's bugged, but I'm not 100% sure. Backlash works excellent, you really need the 100% reduction of casting time if you're in a so bad situation that you get hit by a high-levelled mob. Destructive Reach is to recommend because of the lower threat, it's quite hard to keep the mob attacking the minion when using Destruction spells so it's really necessary for you to not get attacked. Conflagrate is bugged since it doesn't remove the Immolate DoT, so you can use 2 Conflagrate during one Immolate, great, but bug abuse. :] Must have for PvP :p
Curse of Agony is one of my favourites, especially combined with Amplify Curse, great DoT which doesn't generate too much threat.
Death Coil is to recommend having somewhere easily accessible since it works excellent, gets the enemy away from you, damages the enemy AND heals you for the damage you did :]
Drain Life/Mana, well, I recommend that you Drain Life and use Life Tap to aquire mana since you get more mana through doing that. With a lot of bonus damage you can get full health in MAX 3 successful Drain Life so you really should do that :] To recommend combining Drain Life with Siphon Life for fastest life draining :]
AoEs.... Well, these suck HARD for Warlock, Rain of Fire generates too much threat and Hellfire damages you as well as the enemy damages you. Not recommended unless you have a REALLY good priest with you, or you have an insane ammount of stamina :]
Hope this was of help or intrest
Feel free to ask questions about the class, to recieve and give information, or to just discuss it :]
Now I will not add ANYTHING until my hand is better, it doesn't feel very well of typing this much :p
Last edited by Dreara on Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:55 am; edited 1 time in total

Dreara- Knight
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Impressed 

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Impressed by...? O.o
Edit: This was mostly to get a higher rank in the guild for the guild bank... But partially to inform and to start a good discussion about Warlocks, you should just know what I sacrificed for this! xD My finger is ruined <.<' But still, I hope it was of interest to most :]
Edit: This was mostly to get a higher rank in the guild for the guild bank... But partially to inform and to start a good discussion about Warlocks, you should just know what I sacrificed for this! xD My finger is ruined <.<' But still, I hope it was of interest to most :]

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Dreara wrote:
[...]Edit: This was mostly to get a higher rank in the guild for the guild bank...[...]
[...]you should just know what I sacrificed for this! xD My finger is ruined <.<[...]
xD

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now this is more than useful for my young warlock xD

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This is what i meant
There some good hints and info about lock class
thx 
I want more

I want more

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Oh shit, the crowd starts screaming for more xD I'll see what I can do some day I feel like I've learnt something good about it :] I'll write after hand as I learn myself

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cmon dreara give us more
i decided to put my little lock on demonology. can u emphasize a little bout using pets combinig strategies etc? 


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Will do, Urkarg, I'll do it a bit later tonight :]
EDIT: Now I've added some more ^^, Though don't expect anything to be added for a week or two. My finger is in pain ><'
EDIT2: Urkarg, that was an excellent post, please more of such ^^, I want to know what to improve, what more to add etc. But please be a liiiittle more specific, I'm not sure if the addition was what you wanted :]
EDIT: Now I've added some more ^^, Though don't expect anything to be added for a week or two. My finger is in pain ><'
EDIT2: Urkarg, that was an excellent post, please more of such ^^, I want to know what to improve, what more to add etc. But please be a liiiittle more specific, I'm not sure if the addition was what you wanted :]

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thx for all dreara xD youve saved many people from utter destruction 

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Haha, no problems at all. Feel free to post more for me to improve the post, and feel free to give me tips about the class as well, so I can add it :]

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Wew that was alot of text dreara O.o really amazed xD btw nice info

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Haha, keep 'em coming all! xD This is so good for the confidence... *Look suspicious*


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Hehe yeah i probably should make topic on another class if i get high level sometime (probably will be this month or next with this warlock
)
Edit: you will notice if i change my pic here
and also what character i play on then
Edit: you will notice if i change my pic here

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hey ya
hey ....u listed a lot of things...i will do the same at my topic ..paladin
.....but later
)
....nice forum 

nice job
dreara that was impressing,i have a lvl 40 warlock and i dont know where should i put my talents points,i know that affliction is the best,but some people adviced me to put in demonology,im not sure that is the right thing,anyway im plaing with void almost all the time because he can tank more than 1 mob,i heard that on high lvl i should play with felhunter,what do you say?
on void are some bugs,i loved the bug that void had on sacrifice,i just sacrified the void but he was still alive,i was invincible:)) 2 allie lvl 60 attacked me and i was imune:))of all damage
the bug that is really helping now is suffernig ,the spell that help the void to heal 800 hp in 15 sec ,it can be used in combat but i always use it in combat,its a nice bug:)
anyway the best player can play and win without bugs that are helping him,but as long the bugs are there why should'n we use it?
on void are some bugs,i loved the bug that void had on sacrifice,i just sacrified the void but he was still alive,i was invincible:)) 2 allie lvl 60 attacked me and i was imune:))of all damage
the bug that is really helping now is suffernig ,the spell that help the void to heal 800 hp in 15 sec ,it can be used in combat but i always use it in combat,its a nice bug:)
anyway the best player can play and win without bugs that are helping him,but as long the bugs are there why should'n we use it?

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nice post..
thx
reset my talent points on affliction, works great!!
never too old to learn, i guess ..
reset my talent points on affliction, works great!!
never too old to learn, i guess ..

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i have a few things to add to dreara's rather impressive speech up top
its a great thing, and thanks a lot for uploading it right at the time i made my lock 
theres a small bug with Health funnel. if you use it in battle, and move straight away after beginning the casting, you stop channeling, but the minion keeps on getting the health, giving you the time to start casting curses and stuff while healing at the same time. not sure if this works on all minions, but it works on my felhunter.
if your armor is reasonably high for your level, you can tell your minion to attack one mob, while you start attacking another. when the minion has killed his prey, order him to help you. this way you should be able to get maybe twice the exp just a bit faster as you normally would.
NOTE: never use this on mobs more than 2 lvls higher then you, or on rare/elite mobs, or bosses.
i will also inform you the bug yavannah told you about, where you sacrifice the voidwalker for immunity, has been fixed in the meantime, so i wouldnt try it if i where you
also, when you have a new lock, it is smart to put points into affliction and destruction, and to reset them to demonology later on in the game
hope this helped
theres a small bug with Health funnel. if you use it in battle, and move straight away after beginning the casting, you stop channeling, but the minion keeps on getting the health, giving you the time to start casting curses and stuff while healing at the same time. not sure if this works on all minions, but it works on my felhunter.
if your armor is reasonably high for your level, you can tell your minion to attack one mob, while you start attacking another. when the minion has killed his prey, order him to help you. this way you should be able to get maybe twice the exp just a bit faster as you normally would.
NOTE: never use this on mobs more than 2 lvls higher then you, or on rare/elite mobs, or bosses.
i will also inform you the bug yavannah told you about, where you sacrifice the voidwalker for immunity, has been fixed in the meantime, so i wouldnt try it if i where you
also, when you have a new lock, it is smart to put points into affliction and destruction, and to reset them to demonology later on in the game
hope this helped

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btw i wouldnt advise u to use that health channeling stuff again...if someone reports u to a gm u can get banned for a couple of days...

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lol i only use it for PvE, not PvP. and most people i would be in a group with wouldnt report me for doing that 

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